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mr. heroic · Feb 02, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

do you prefer an axe a sword or a hammer?

which one?
and why?

greenreaper3 · Feb 02, 2008, 06:36 PM // 18:36

axe...

because i think my murakis reaver looks better than a sephis sword on my 15k black kurzick...

ax mastery · Feb 02, 2008, 07:15 PM // 19:15

Hammer! cuz 9 sec kd lock owns.

Coloneh · Feb 02, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

axe. because triple chop owns PvE and axe spike owns PvP.

Yichi · Feb 02, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22

All of the above depending on what I need.

Squishy ftw · Feb 02, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49

pve: sword -> godmode
pvp: axe -> eviscerate

Crom The Pale · Feb 02, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43

I often prefer sword over Axe and rarely use hammers.

Mainly though its all dependant on what build I feel like using at the time.

JDRyder · Feb 02, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

i did some testing and heres what came out

axe and sword have the same avg DPS with out skills, hammer has higher avg DPS with out skills than axe and sword

sword and axe 18~21 DPS

Hammer 25~30 DPS

I tested 3 bars of 4 skills per bar, you will find the skills on most bars of the attribute type

[skill]eviscerate[/skill][skill]executioner's strike[/skill][skill]agonizing chop[/skill][skill]furious axe[/skill]

[skill]devastating hammer[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]heavy blow[/skill]

[skill]dragon slash[/skill][skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]gash[/skill][skill]final thrust[/skill]

I used all of them with a icy 15^50 mod, on the same target and ran the bars 5 times to make sure i didnt get a lucky crit. also used 8 strength and 12 in w/e attribute i was using.

The sword got 35~45 DPS

The hammer got 50~55 DPS

and the axe got 40~60 DPS

the best hit i got from the axe was 93 damage, the best with the hammer was 112 and the best with the sword was 102 "only if the target was under 50%HP on the last attack if not only 65"

so hammer has more DPS over all DPS but axe takes the win on spike damage.

I like both Axe and hammer my self cause of the type of war i run

If you are going to run a defensive war you may like sword better cause of skills like riposte, I think defensive wars are 100% useless to a group, blocking skills dont stop caster damage and thats what you need to "tank" most the time.

I like to run a offensive war. Most the time i use a hammer, knock downs can help the group a lot more then a lot of blocking skills. Knock downs slow down DPS on both casters and melee so it works on both types damage, Knock downs can also help the group kill things faster, like keeping a monk knocked down as your team rapes his friends.
heres some bars i use as a hammer war
[skill]earth shaker[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]hammer bash[/skill][skill]counter blow[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
[skill]devastating hammer[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]heavy blow[/skill][skill]counter blow[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

As for Axe the bar i run most the time is a shock axe
[skill]eviscerate[/skill][skill]executioner's strike[/skill][skill]agonizing chop[/skill][skill]frenzy[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill][skill]bull's strike[/skill][skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]shock[/skill]

DreamRunner · Feb 03, 2008, 03:25 AM // 03:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDRyder

i did some testing and heres what came out

axe and sword have the same avg DPS with out skills, hammer has higher avg DPS with out skills than axe and sword

sword and axe 18~21 DPS

Hammer 25~30 DPS

I tested 3 bars of 4 skills per bar, you will find the skills on most bars of the attribute type

[skill]eviscerate[/skill][skill]executioner's strike[/skill][skill]agonizing chop[/skill][skill]furious axe[/skill]

[skill]devastating hammer[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]irresistible blow[/skill]

[skill]dragon slash[/skill][skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]gash[/skill][skill]final thrust[/skill]

I used all of them with a icy 15^50 mod, on the same target and ran the bars 5 times to make sure i didnt get a lucky crit. also used 8 strength and 12 in w/e attribute i was using.

The sword got 35~45 DPS

The hammer got 45~50 DPS

and the axe got 40~60 DPS

Sword build is full of fail since you got dragonslash and final thrust. Hammer Wars have KD, why you have irresistible blow also is odd for a derv hammer combo. Just saying you can't compare DPS with skills, since different weaponry have different outcomes.

Sword, hammer or axe have different out comes and different uses. Choosing sword, hammer or axe should depend on what build you are running as a team. eg. crip slash war + SA sin or shock axe and back breaker hammer.

JDRyder · Feb 03, 2008, 03:56 AM // 03:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamRunner

Sword build is full of fail since you got dragonslash and final thrust. Hammer Wars have KD, why you have irresistible blow also is odd for a derv hammer combo. Just saying you can't compare DPS with skills, since different weaponry have different outcomes.

Sword, hammer or axe have different out comes and different uses. Choosing sword, hammer or axe should depend on what build you are running as a team. eg. crip slash war + SA sin or shock axe and back breaker hammer.

for the sword i added that cuz it was just a fast spike, not ment to do any thing after the last attack

i re did the hammer but its not a big jump just by about 5 DPS replaced bar with [skill]devastating hammer[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]heavy blow[/skill]

blue.rellik · Feb 03, 2008, 04:38 AM // 04:38

Dlsash and spike do not belong in the same sentence

**Marty Silverblade** · Feb 03, 2008, 07:45 AM // 07:45

Sword because of Godmode. I can deal insane damage numbers, make my team basically unkillable (this is PvE, remember), and keep you knocked down for as long as I like. Sounds gg to me.

mr. heroic · Feb 03, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15

ftw i like axes because it's a balance between a sword's good looks and a hammer's high damage

Trax Reborn · Feb 03, 2008, 07:35 PM // 19:35

i find myself running axe most of the time overall, due to my laziness to weapon/armor swap with storage. but for pvp i run about 50/50 hammer/axe. i dont see much use for a sword besides a few farming builds.